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	<title>Comments on: The Weird Youth of the Animal Kingdom (Slide Show)</title>
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		<title>By: lizzy</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41228</link>
		<dc:creator>lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[really awesome pictures. They really were laughable:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really awesome pictures. They really were laughable:)</p>
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		<title>By: June Ariola</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41159</link>
		<dc:creator>June Ariola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Torbjorn, thank you for your wonderful explanation of pattern search.  

I also find it interesting that many believe there cannot be life on a planet such as Venus, with its seemingly harsh atmosphere.  There are other types of life forms here on our very planet that live in harsh environments...  such as the bacteria living in the highly acid environment of the stomach and the life around the boiling environment of the volcanic vents at the bottom of the sea.  Creatures live in the deep parts of the ocean where the pressure is so strong it would crush most earthly life forms.  They find tiny worms living in the frozen ice of glaciers.  I think that life forms will appear in many of the places we now think unlikely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torbjorn, thank you for your wonderful explanation of pattern search.  </p>
<p>I also find it interesting that many believe there cannot be life on a planet such as Venus, with its seemingly harsh atmosphere.  There are other types of life forms here on our very planet that live in harsh environments&#8230;  such as the bacteria living in the highly acid environment of the stomach and the life around the boiling environment of the volcanic vents at the bottom of the sea.  Creatures live in the deep parts of the ocean where the pressure is so strong it would crush most earthly life forms.  They find tiny worms living in the frozen ice of glaciers.  I think that life forms will appear in many of the places we now think unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating, and (mostly) good comments too!

@Michael Handley: Other species are the environment of a species too, it is unlikely that a diversified biosphere as ours would settle into stasis even if the rest of a species environment would. The best approximation would be early Earth, so prokaryotes would be forms compatible with stasis.

@June Ariola: That is pattern search, and it is futile here as everywhere else.

- There is in fact no correspondence between atoms and planets. The simplified atom model is not anything near the actual atom with its electron clouds, where there is a finite likelihood for electrons to appear _within_ the nucleus (except for the lowest energy spherical electron state).

- Stars in galaxies orbits overall (not counting clusters) a common center by way of the virial theorem. There does not need to be anything particular in the center, and in fact it seems our own Milky Way bar is not exactly centered on the mass center of its dark matter (the most massive component).

- Galaxy clusters emerges out of dark matter filaments from primordial fluctuations in the inflationary standard cosmology. It is too complicated trajectories to remind of the virial theorem as applied to an isolated galaxy. The filaments doesn&#039;t merit the idea of nucleus, rather they look like embeddings of the visible matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating, and (mostly) good comments too!</p>
<p>@Michael Handley: Other species are the environment of a species too, it is unlikely that a diversified biosphere as ours would settle into stasis even if the rest of a species environment would. The best approximation would be early Earth, so prokaryotes would be forms compatible with stasis.</p>
<p>@June Ariola: That is pattern search, and it is futile here as everywhere else.</p>
<p>- There is in fact no correspondence between atoms and planets. The simplified atom model is not anything near the actual atom with its electron clouds, where there is a finite likelihood for electrons to appear _within_ the nucleus (except for the lowest energy spherical electron state).</p>
<p>- Stars in galaxies orbits overall (not counting clusters) a common center by way of the virial theorem. There does not need to be anything particular in the center, and in fact it seems our own Milky Way bar is not exactly centered on the mass center of its dark matter (the most massive component).</p>
<p>- Galaxy clusters emerges out of dark matter filaments from primordial fluctuations in the inflationary standard cosmology. It is too complicated trajectories to remind of the virial theorem as applied to an isolated galaxy. The filaments doesn&#8217;t merit the idea of nucleus, rather they look like embeddings of the visible matter.</p>
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		<title>By: June Ariola</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41093</link>
		<dc:creator>June Ariola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something that has always fascinated me is how forms seem to repeat themselves in the physical world.  Starting with the atom, we have a nucleus, with electrons orbiting around it. Then we have our solar system where our planets orbit around the sun (a star).  Then we have our spiral galaxies with billions of stars orbiting around some central nucleus (perhaps a black hole).  And now, we know that our spiral galaxy, along with millions of other galaxies, is orbiting around some other nucleus.  For all we know, this is just one of millions of other groups, evolving around some even greater central nucleus.  The mind boggles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that has always fascinated me is how forms seem to repeat themselves in the physical world.  Starting with the atom, we have a nucleus, with electrons orbiting around it. Then we have our solar system where our planets orbit around the sun (a star).  Then we have our spiral galaxies with billions of stars orbiting around some central nucleus (perhaps a black hole).  And now, we know that our spiral galaxy, along with millions of other galaxies, is orbiting around some other nucleus.  For all we know, this is just one of millions of other groups, evolving around some even greater central nucleus.  The mind boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Handley</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41089</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world keeps evolving...yet we have christians that say it shouldn&#039;t be taught in school. That&#039;s another debate, just shows how humans haven&#039;t evolved enough yet with intelligence.  But my true comment is, if evolving means change, it&#039;s because the environment changes around us I would hypothesize, but what if our surroundings became a baseline constant, what would the worlds purest form look like, where it didn&#039;t have to evolve any longer...?  I challenge evolutionary artists to that one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world keeps evolving&#8230;yet we have christians that say it shouldn&#8217;t be taught in school. That&#8217;s another debate, just shows how humans haven&#8217;t evolved enough yet with intelligence.  But my true comment is, if evolving means change, it&#8217;s because the environment changes around us I would hypothesize, but what if our surroundings became a baseline constant, what would the worlds purest form look like, where it didn&#8217;t have to evolve any longer&#8230;?  I challenge evolutionary artists to that one!</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What wonderful paintings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What wonderful paintings.</p>
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		<title>By: bifyu</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41039</link>
		<dc:creator>bifyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real question is, what did they taste like? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is, what did they taste like? <img src='http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Marjanović</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-41018</link>
		<dc:creator>David Marjanović</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and, &lt;i&gt;Odontogriphus&lt;/i&gt; has recently been considered a mollusk, complete with radula, but I forgot the reference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and, <i>Odontogriphus</i> has recently been considered a mollusk, complete with radula, but I forgot the reference.</p>
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		<title>By: David Marjanović</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marjanović</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The skin texture you gave &lt;i&gt;Myllokunmingia&lt;/i&gt; looks like fish scales. If you meant to do this, that&#039;s inaccurate. Fish scales are bone plates in the skin, and &lt;i&gt;M.&lt;/i&gt; had no bone at all. Hagfish and lampreys lack scales, too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The skin texture you gave <i>Myllokunmingia</i> looks like fish scales. If you meant to do this, that&#8217;s inaccurate. Fish scales are bone plates in the skin, and <i>M.</i> had no bone at all. Hagfish and lampreys lack scales, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Braterman</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/18/weird-youth-animal-kingdom/#comment-40938</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Braterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is part of the novelty a trick of perspective? The mighty limbs of an oak tree, separately branching and supporting further multiple branchings, were at one time as close and as similar as two new twigs on the end of a minor branch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is part of the novelty a trick of perspective? The mighty limbs of an oak tree, separately branching and supporting further multiple branchings, were at one time as close and as similar as two new twigs on the end of a minor branch.</p>
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