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	<title>Comments on: The Future Evolution of Bird Flu</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-41169</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So tired of people being scared of the flu.... Only ever gotten the flu shot once... and only got the flu once. Not at the same time... just saying... If I can fight off the flu without a vaccine then so can everyone else. If your immune system is compromised, take precautions but seriously this mass paranoia is annoying and irresponsible. People die every day for millions of reasons... once we come to terms with that the rhetoric is much more apparent and we can start trying to cure actual diseases like I dunno cancer, alzheimers, or AIDS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So tired of people being scared of the flu&#8230;. Only ever gotten the flu shot once&#8230; and only got the flu once. Not at the same time&#8230; just saying&#8230; If I can fight off the flu without a vaccine then so can everyone else. If your immune system is compromised, take precautions but seriously this mass paranoia is annoying and irresponsible. People die every day for millions of reasons&#8230; once we come to terms with that the rhetoric is much more apparent and we can start trying to cure actual diseases like I dunno cancer, alzheimers, or AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wood-Smith.</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-40054</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wood-Smith.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Partners and I are aware, H5N1 is an electrically abnormal pathogen, with the potential to mutate to an &#039;infectious state&#039; at a future time.

Because the virus is &#039;electrically abnormal&#039;, such a virus can be shown to be treatable.  We hope to publish a &#039;White Paper&#039; in the near future, on the subject of electrically abnormal pathogens: their cause and treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Partners and I are aware, H5N1 is an electrically abnormal pathogen, with the potential to mutate to an &#8216;infectious state&#8217; at a future time.</p>
<p>Because the virus is &#8216;electrically abnormal&#8217;, such a virus can be shown to be treatable.  We hope to publish a &#8216;White Paper&#8217; in the near future, on the subject of electrically abnormal pathogens: their cause and treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-40033</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the article. I feel like I learned and understand &quot;bird flu&quot; a lot better. Human beings sometimes seem invincible but are supremely fragile at the same time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article. I feel like I learned and understand &#8220;bird flu&#8221; a lot better. Human beings sometimes seem invincible but are supremely fragile at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-40006</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!  Excellent demonstration of how simulation models can help zero in on the key parameters that are likely to drive--or most effectively stop--a pandemic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  Excellent demonstration of how simulation models can help zero in on the key parameters that are likely to drive&#8211;or most effectively stop&#8211;a pandemic.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-39917</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often read that pigs make the perfect mixing vessel for a more transmissible influenza virus, do you think that is a possibility with H5N1?

&lt;strong&gt;[CZ: Andrea, that&#039;s a good point. Unfortunately, pigs CAN get infected with H5N1. And the virus can replicate without causing visible symptoms. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/16/10/10-0508_article.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt; for more disturbing details. (Although scientists who ran &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23266109&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a more recent study &lt;/a&gt;failed to see a jump from bird to pig.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often read that pigs make the perfect mixing vessel for a more transmissible influenza virus, do you think that is a possibility with H5N1?</p>
<p><strong>[CZ: Andrea, that's a good point. Unfortunately, pigs CAN get infected with H5N1. And the virus can replicate without causing visible symptoms. See <a href="http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/16/10/10-0508_article.htm" rel="nofollow">this paper</a> for more disturbing details. (Although scientists who ran <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23266109" rel="nofollow">a more recent study </a>failed to see a jump from bird to pig.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: BF Maven</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-39880</link>
		<dc:creator>BF Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it the fact that h5n1 affects the lower lung that gives the high CFR or that it creates a cytokine storm? also the researchers did not factor in JIT disruptions. A prepared public can SIP for long periods. Certain countries have active bio-weapon research using H5N1. Why no conversation on that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it the fact that h5n1 affects the lower lung that gives the high CFR or that it creates a cytokine storm? also the researchers did not factor in JIT disruptions. A prepared public can SIP for long periods. Certain countries have active bio-weapon research using H5N1. Why no conversation on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-39867</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are 3 obvious typos in the article.
Credibility wanes.

&lt;strong&gt;[CZ: Good to know that leaving an s off a word can wipe out my career. Too bad you feel the need to keep your proofreading a secret.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 3 obvious typos in the article.<br />
Credibility wanes.</p>
<p><strong>[CZ: Good to know that leaving an s off a word can wipe out my career. Too bad you feel the need to keep your proofreading a secret.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: PATRICK EBERHART</title>
		<link>http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/07/the-future-evolution-of-bird-flu/#comment-39842</link>
		<dc:creator>PATRICK EBERHART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Birds are dinosaurs, okay, descended from dinosaurs, right. That means they were around at the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event (or K-T event) in which only non-avian dinosaurs and pterosaurs were entirely wiped out while lizards, mammals, birds only suffered high rates of extinction. 

Alligators and crocodiles did not go extinct but many plants did. Since plants do not succumb to viruses we can pretty much conclude the extinction did not result from a virus, right?
&lt;strong&gt;
[CZ: Plants do get viruses. But there&#039;s much more evidence for an asteroid impact and volcanoes as the cause.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birds are dinosaurs, okay, descended from dinosaurs, right. That means they were around at the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event (or K-T event) in which only non-avian dinosaurs and pterosaurs were entirely wiped out while lizards, mammals, birds only suffered high rates of extinction. </p>
<p>Alligators and crocodiles did not go extinct but many plants did. Since plants do not succumb to viruses we can pretty much conclude the extinction did not result from a virus, right?<br />
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[CZ: Plants do get viruses. But there's much more evidence for an asteroid impact and volcanoes as the cause.]</strong></p>
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